Gerald Weinberg-探索需求-UMLChina讲座-音频

时间

北京时间 2004年3月19日10:00-12:00

演讲人

温伯格(Gerald Weinberg)。对软件业影响巨大的几个人之一。

主持人

熊妍妍，温伯格中文网站负责人

章柏幸，温伯格丛书译者

声音记录

网盘下载(56M)：http://pan.baidu.com/share/link?shareid=72882&uk=1795750932

UMLChina早期的很多专家讲座是通过越洋电话举行，所以音质和后来的讲座相比稍差。

部分译文

聊天记录

(09:09:22)*wangz_bpusei与所有人说:hi

(09:09:47)*wangz_bpusei与所有人说:大家好

(09:10:02)*wangz_bpusei与mmm说:你好

(09:15:18)*wangz_bpusei与mmm说:我怎么听不见。

(09:16:06)*wangz_bpusei与[*umlchina_seminar]说:我怎么听不见

(09:16:28)UpbeatJason与所有人说:今天的讲座继续吗？

(09:16:28)*wangz_bpusei与[*umlchina_seminar]说:你在说话么？

(09:17:27)*wangz_bpusei与UpbeatJason说:不知道，等着吧

(09:17:40)UpbeatJason与所有人说:呵呵

(09:24:21)*bebraveh与所有人说:有人在说话吗

(09:24:57)*bebraveh与所有人说:我怎么听不见声音

(09:25:44)*shiningxyy与所有人说:来了

(09:27:52)*shiningxyy与所有人说:听不见，是噪音

(09:31:53)paul与所有人说:no voice

(09:33:43)edge与所有人说:hi

(09:33:54)*shiningxyy与所有人说:现在什么声音都没有了

(09:37:19)infantawake与所有人说:偶像还没来？

(09:37:33)infantawake与所有人说:温仔！温仔！温仔！温仔！温仔！温仔！温仔！温仔！

(09:37:45)delson与所有人说:嘘

(09:37:59)infantawake与所有人说:温仔！温仔！温仔！温仔！温仔！温仔！温仔！温仔！温仔！温仔！

(09:38:32)mmm与所有人说:Can you hear me?

(09:38:37)paul与所有人说:no

(09:38:45)paul与mmm说:no

(09:38:59)paul与mmm说:no voice

(09:39:07)mmm与所有人说:music，you can't hear?

(09:39:13)paul与mmm说:yes

(09:39:23)paul与mmm说:nothing.

(09:41:45)mmm与所有人说:how about now?

(09:41:59)paul与mmm说:no voice

(09:42:05)mmm与所有人说:Thanks

(09:44:47)*陈祖昭与所有人说:???

(09:45:19)*陈祖昭与delson说:你好

(09:47:35)paul与所有人说:how to test my mic.

(09:47:40)yl_tfc与所有人说:大家好

(09:48:52)paul与[*umlchina_seminar]说:can u hear me? )

(09:49:44)yl_tfc与所有人说:请问每次讲课的录音有下载的吗

(09:49:59)UpbeatJason与所有人说:有人说话吗？

(09:50:42)UpbeatJason与所有人说:我没有麦克

(09:52:27)UpbeatJason与所有人说:总算有点声音了

(09:56:19)*wangz_bpusei与UpbeatJason说:怎么没有声音？

(09:56:26)*Televigation与所有人说:现在有声音吗？

(09:56:41)*Televigation与所有人说:有的话，是什么？

(09:56:43)heroxn与所有人说:no voice

(09:58:02)delson与所有人说:是不是没声音！？

(09:58:12)[*umlchina_seminar]与所有人说:嘉宾马上就到

(09:58:16)*Televigation与所有人说:反正我是没有听到什么。

(09:58:25)*wangz_bpusei与UpbeatJason说:没有声音。

(09:58:37)UpbeatJason与所有人说:有

(09:58:50)*wangz_bpusei与UpbeatJason说:什么声音？

(09:59:05)*shiningxyy与所有人说:好像是因为没有插件

(09:59:08)*Televigation与[*umlchina_seminar]说:现在到底有声音吗？

(09:59:17)*shiningxyy与所有人说:不知道是怎么一回事

(09:59:38)*陈祖昭与所有人说:插件没有显示出来了！

(09:59:46)*shiningxyy与所有人说:没有

(09:59:53)*shiningxyy与所有人说:没有提示我安装

(10:00:10)*wangz_bpusei与UpbeatJason说:我装了插件，怎么还是没有声音？

(10:00:32)UpbeatJason与*wangz_bpusei说:打开语音

(10:00:57)*wangz_bpusei与UpbeatJason说:打开了，还是没有声。

(10:01:05)*shiningxyy与所有人说:有人说话吗？

(10:01:10)*Televigation与UpbeatJason说:对，我也没有。

(10:01:19)*Televigation与UpbeatJason说:没声音~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

(10:01:21)*shiningxyy与所有人说:大家有没有听到有人说话的声音？

(10:01:22)*wangz_bpusei与所有人说:没有吧

(10:01:42)[*umlchina_seminar]与所有人说:test

(10:02:19)*flybean与所有人说:test

(10:02:35)*Televigation与所有人说:test什么阿？！声音吗？

(10:02:40)UpbeatJason与*wangz_bpusei说:现在没有人说话吧？

(10:03:05)*wangz_bpusei与UpbeatJason说:没有。

(10:03:08)*shiningxyy与所有人说:seminar说句话test一下吧

(10:04:00)VoiceOfWeinberg与所有人说:正在与专家沟通，请稍后

(10:04:21)*Televigation与中仙说:你有病阿？！

(10:04:58)VoiceOfWeinberg与所有人说:专家好像登录不进，尝试中

(10:05:22)*wangz_bpusei与所有人说:.....

(10:05:55)stonethink@163.com与所有人说:怎么没有声音？

(10:06:11)*陈祖昭与中仙说:滚！

(10:06:38)*shiningxyy与所有人说:踢他出去

(10:06:39)*Televigation与所有人说:把“中仙”踏出去！！！！！！！！！！！！！

(10:06:50)*wangz_bpusei与所有人说:怎么回事？

(10:07:04)*Televigation与所有人说:这个人是来捣乱的！！！！

(10:07:15)*flybean与所有人说:any voice?

(10:07:42)*ron2k与中仙说:你在这里不受欢迎，还是自己离开吧

(10:08:13)edge与*ron2k说:hi,ron

(10:08:35)*bebraveh与所有人说:Did seminar begin?

(10:08:45)*wangz_bpusei与所有人说:到底行不行呀？

(10:08:47)*shiningxyy与所有人说:没有，seminar正与weinberg交流，等一会

(10:09:00)infantawake与所有人说:偶像呀

(10:09:10)*ron2k与edge说:Nice to meet you

(10:09:20)*wangz_bpusei与所有人说:那也给一点声音呀。

(10:09:26)infantawake与所有人说:温仔！温仔！温仔！温仔！温仔！温仔！温仔！温仔！温仔！温仔！温仔！温仔！温仔！温仔！温仔！温仔！温仔！温仔！ｙｅａｈ！

(10:09:28)*shiningxyy与所有人说:有声音

(10:09:31)*bebraveh与*ron2k说:hi,ron

(10:09:43)infantawake与所有人说:聆听大师的声音

(10:09:43)[*umlchina_seminar]与所有人说:稍等一会

(10:10:01)*wangz_bpusei与所有人说:谁能听见声音？

(10:10:05)*flybean与所有人说:yes

(10:10:21)*wangz_bpusei与所有人说:还有谁？

(10:10:33)*wangz_bpusei与所有人说:我怎么听不见？

(10:10:36)*bebraveh与所有人说:I can't wait any longer

(10:12:04)*flybean与所有人说:Sorry, I cound not hear the saying,just notice that a new message comes

(10:12:42)*wangz_bpusei与*flybean说:什么都听不见。

(10:12:51)infantawake与所有人说:温仔！温仔！温仔！温仔！温仔！温仔！温仔！温仔！温仔！温仔！温仔！温仔！温仔！温仔！温仔！温仔！温仔！温仔！

(10:13:01)*wangz_bpusei与所有人说:温仔！温仔！温仔！温仔！温仔！温仔！温仔！温仔！温仔！温仔！温仔！温仔！温仔！温仔！温仔！温仔！温仔！温仔！

(10:13:02)*flybean与所有人说:delayed?

(10:13:09)VoiceOfWeinberg与*JerryWeinberg说:welcome，professor

(10:13:09)[*umlchina_seminar]与所有人说:专家到了，大家欢迎

(10:13:15)[*umlchina_seminar]与所有人说:JerryWeinberg]

(10:13:19)yl_tfc与所有人说:欢迎欢迎

(10:13:31)*wangz_bpusei与所有人说:温仔！温仔！温仔！温仔！温仔！温仔！温仔！温仔！温仔！温仔！温仔！温仔！温仔！温仔！温仔！温仔！温仔！

(10:13:34)[*umlchina_seminar]与所有人说:please speak english

(10:13:35)*flybean与所有人说:welcome.

(10:13:50)*wangz_bpusei与所有人说:welcome

(10:14:09)*flybean与所有人说:to umlchina : any font color defined?

(10:14:48)*flybean与所有人说:Ok , some voice

(10:14:54)*shiningxyy与所有人说:welcome

(10:14:57)*wangz_bpusei与所有人说:no?

(10:15:05)*wangz_bpusei与所有人说:no voice ?

(10:15:07)[*umlchina_seminar]与*JerryWeinberg说:yes, we can hear!

(10:15:12)*shiningxyy与所有人说:yes

(10:15:18)*flybean与所有人说:yes, got

(10:15:20)*陈祖昭与所有人说:yeah

(10:15:26)*shiningxyy与所有人说:yes, i can hear weinberg's voice

(10:16:20)*flybean与所有人说:a little louder, plz

(10:16:51)*shiningxyy与所有人说:yes there are a lot of questions about uml.

(10:17:11)*wangz_bpusei与所有人说:no voice

(10:17:24)*shiningxyy与所有人说:打开语音

(10:18:06)*shiningxyy与所有人说:现在weinberg在回答网友问的几个问题

(10:18:19)*shiningxyy与所有人说:大家现在就可以提自己关心的问题了

(10:18:53)*shiningxyy与所有人说:可以先考虑一下，然后发到讲座室里

(10:20:29)*shiningxyy与所有人说:如果大家觉得有噪音，可以把音量稍微开小一点

(10:21:08)*citizen2yy与所有人说:hi

(10:21:15)*shiningxyy与所有人说:first topic： UML language

(10:21:22)*shiningxyy与所有人说:welcome

(10:21:30)*citizen2yy与所有人说:I am sorry that i am later..

(10:21:38)*shiningxyy与所有人说:that's ok

(10:21:40)*flybean与所有人说:How to persuade the costumers to give up their unpractical requirments?

(10:23:30)*wangz_bpusei与所有人说:noise

(10:23:46)*shiningxyy与所有人说:yes,he is answering the second question

(10:23:54)*shiningxyy与所有人说:flybean's question

(10:24:50)*shiningxyy与所有人说:其他人也可以准备一下自己关心的问题

(10:27:59)*flybean与所有人说:Often costumers choice some products themself, and maybe the products could not mee

(10:28:13)*flybean与所有人说:meet the requirments of the project, how todo?

(10:29:46)VoiceOfWeinberg与*JerryWeinberg说:Excuse me professor,are there some signs -

(10:29:53)VoiceOfWeinberg与*JerryWeinberg说:to show that customers aren't telling the true requirements?

(10:30:01)*citizen2yy与[*umlchina_seminar]说:hi,please cancel 宜芬

(10:30:10)*citizen2yy与[*umlchina_seminar]说:she is a flger

(10:30:44)*citizen2yy与*shiningxyy说:i can not hear anything

(10:30:49)*flybean与所有人说:Here, costumers often want pay less and ask for more.

(10:31:25)*flybean与所有人说:and often what they pay is less than what need to run the project

(10:32:32)*shiningxyy与所有人说:welcome gigix

(10:32:44)gigix与所有人说:听不见声音，我就看看大家聊吧

(10:32:47)VoiceOfWeinberg与*JerryWeinberg说:so the Uncertainty is a sign

(10:34:23)*citizen2yy与*shiningxyy说:in this damn netbar no msn software installed

(10:35:09)*shiningxyy与*citizen2yy说:it's ok. you can send out the questions.

(10:35:29)VoiceOfWeinberg与*JerryWeinberg说:Thank you very much

(10:35:51)*citizen2yy与*shiningxyy说:can you hear weinberg's sound?

(10:36:14)*shiningxyy与*citizen2yy说:yet, but not so clear. how about you

(10:36:25)*citizen2yy与*shiningxyy说:i can not hear anything

(10:37:01)*shiningxyy与*citizen2yy说:打开语音，按钮变成全双工

(10:38:14)[*umlchina_seminar]与*JerryWeinberg说:wwh@156net.com asks: How can I know I finish my requirement modeling?

(10:39:15)*shiningxyy与*citizen2yy说:yes,大家可以问问题了，直接在这里发消息

(10:39:26)*shiningxyy与所有人说:yes,大家可以问问题了，直接在这里发消息

(10:39:41)*citizen2yy与*shiningxyy说:thx, I know how to open, but the damn computer does not surport me.

(10:40:55)*citizen2yy与*shiningxyy说:我就做一个聋子。

(10:41:17)*shiningxyy与*citizen2yy说:对。你就聋子吧。不过可以问问题。

(10:41:51)*mountainwang与所有人说:can we say the requirement collection and analyzing process could be independant to OO methodology?

(10:46:50)*shiningxyy与所有人说:some readers told me that your system thinking and design books are a little bit hard to read.

(10:48:18)delson与所有人说:sorry

(10:48:26)delson与所有人说:I've just come in

(10:49:04)*shiningxyy与所有人说:could you pls give them some instruction on how to read and study the two books.

(10:49:19)*shiningxyy与所有人说:it's ok, delson

(10:52:23)*shiningxyy与所有人说:also, among many of your books published, which book do you like best, and why?

(10:53:42)PAUL与[*umlchina_seminar]说:why? )

(10:54:15)VoiceOfWeinberg与*JerryWeinberg说:Could you tell us some stories of how you formed your thoughts(in your books)?

(10:54:21)*shiningxyy与所有人说:how do you identify and analysis the customers' requirement(readers' requirement)?

(10:54:48)VoiceOfWeinberg与*JerryWeinberg说:how you come to think this way, and not other ways?

(10:56:53)[*umlchina_seminar]与*lijin_as说:大家请把右下角的麦克风音量调到最低，以免影响嘉宾，谢谢

(10:58:13)UpbeatJason与所有人说:????

(10:58:18)[*umlchina_seminar]与VoiceOfWeinberg说:大家等等

(10:58:24)*shiningxyy与所有人说:大家等一下

(10:58:38)[*umlchina_seminar]与VoiceOfWeinberg说:嘉宾不小心挂断了

(10:59:13)*shiningxyy与所有人说:大家现在还可以想一些问题

(10:59:44)[*umlchina_seminar]与*JerryWeinberg说:professor, The line connection break, please pick up again

(10:59:47)*JerryWeinberg与所有人说:We got cut off. Can you call me again, please?

(11:00:02)[*umlchina_seminar]与*JerryWeinberg说:1 minute

(11:00:12)[*umlchina_seminar]与*JerryWeinberg说:busy line?

(11:04:31)*shiningxyy与*JerryWeinberg说:chenji8074@tom.com asks: How can I apply "exploring requirement" to my daily life.

(11:04:39)*shiningxyy与*JerryWeinberg说:Or help more people?

(11:05:01)PAUL与所有人说:Design another real world, resolve the problem of our human being.

(11:06:39)*citizen2yy与所有人说:温伯格首要的贡献集中于软件领域，他是从个体心理、组织行为和企业文化角度研究软件管理和软件工程的权威和代表人物。

(11:06:41)VoiceOfWeinberg与*JerryWeinberg说:Maybe sometimes the developers and the customers are foreigners to each other(kidding)

(11:07:29)*shiningxyy与*JerryWeinberg说:qianyy@centen.com.cn asks: My experience is: after the prototype,

(11:07:51)*shiningxyy与*JerryWeinberg说:the client just really know what he need, it is too late….

(11:07:54)PAUL与所有人说:a movie named the thirteenth floor. hehe

(11:09:21)whxiaoyong与所有人说:hi

(11:09:34)*citizen2yy与所有人说:In the book "are your lights on?", Jerry told us One seldom know what they want until

(11:09:42)*shiningxyy与*JerryWeinberg说:heh

(11:09:55)*citizen2yy与所有人说:you (the designer) give them the right thing.

(11:10:15)*citizen2yy与所有人说:then, my question is,

(11:10:39)*rachel_33546716与所有人说:technology is worthless-even dangerous-if we don't pay atten to the human aspects of both its use

(11:10:44)*citizen2yy与所有人说:how to figout those requirement that custom don't know

(11:14:11)*shiningxyy与*JerryWeinberg说:wwh@156net.com asks: How can I know I finish my requirement modeling?

(11:15:00)*citizen2yy与所有人说:wwh's problem was fitted in the book "exploring requirement".

(11:15:12)*citizen2yy与所有人说:chapter 25. end.

(11:15:21)*citizen2yy与所有人说::)

(11:15:57)*shiningxyy与*citizen2yy说:it's seems that you are becoming an expert on exploring requirement.:)

(11:17:08)*citizen2yy与所有人说:Jerry has give us some advice about end the requirement state.

(11:18:25)*shiningxyy与所有人说:how to become a good requirement engineer?

(11:19:05)*citizen2yy与所有人说:Requirement will never finished until the development(product) be canceled.

(11:19:26)*rachel_33546716与所有人说:up

(11:21:25)*shiningxyy与*JerryWeinberg说:wwh@156net.com : which artifacts are necessary in requirement discipline(requirement process?)

(11:21:47)*shiningxyy与*JerryWeinberg说:Paul Qu: Can you give me your opinion about software craftsmanship(Pete McBreen)?

(11:23:04)[*umlchina_seminar]与VoiceOfWeinberg说:citizen2yy是温伯格书籍译者章柏幸，他去年译的《你的灯亮着吗》获得中文书大奖。

(11:23:35)[*umlchina_seminar]与VoiceOfWeinberg说:章柏幸同时也是《探索需求》的译者

(11:23:36)*citizen2yy与[*umlchina_seminar]说:什么中文书大奖？我还不知道呢？ )

(11:23:59)delson与所有人说:崇敬之

(11:24:02)*rachel_33546716与*citizen2yy说:啊，幸会幸会

(11:24:19)*shiningxyy与所有人说:yet. the chinese version of this book will soon be published in one or two month.

(11:24:45)*shiningxyy与所有人说:should be "yes"

(11:24:59)PAUL与*JerryWeinberg说:in china?

(11:25:29)*shiningxyy与所有人说:no, in usa

(11:25:41)PAUL与*JerryWeinberg说:the jboss

(11:27:12)*rachel_33546716与*citizen2yy说:take care,prof.

(11:27:41)*shiningxyy与所有人说:we give our deep thanks to prof.

(11:28:03)*shiningxyy与*JerryWeinberg说:yangzx2000@sohu.com asks: have you ever been to china and will you come to China?

(11:28:33)PAUL与*JerryWeinberg说:Thanks Jerry.

(11:28:35)*shiningxyy与*JerryWeinberg说:how do you comment on China markets in software development?

(11:29:58)*rachel_33546716与*citizen2yy说:sorry,it's fault to say u.

(11:29:59)*shiningxyy与所有人说:yes. Prof weinberg likes Chinese culture very much.

(11:30:32)PAUL与*JerryWeinberg说:and Chinese Medicine.

(11:30:41)*shiningxyy与*JerryWeinberg说:Welcome to China. and I will be very honored to cook Chinese food to you.

(11:30:49)*shiningxyy与*JerryWeinberg说::)

(11:31:08)PAUL与*JerryWeinberg说:Take care of your health prof.

(11:31:22)PAUL与*JerryWeinberg说:Realy

(11:31:45)PAUL与*JerryWeinberg说:try the Chinese tea.

(11:31:59)*shiningxyy与*JerryWeinberg说:Chinese readers are also very interested in your career background. your personal growth in career.

(11:32:06)*shiningxyy与*JerryWeinberg说:thanks.:)

(11:33:11)*shiningxyy与*JerryWeinberg说:yes,since you have the experience in programming, training, managing and consulting as well

(11:33:30)VoiceOfWeinberg与*JerryWeinberg说:do you have some effective ways to some shell-like customers(that means they don't like to ask)

(11:33:43)wulifeng与所有人说:ask: Mr. Weinberg, have you found some fitfalls in "exploring req." since it published? thank you!

(11:33:52)*shiningxyy与*JerryWeinberg说:Jiezh74@hotmail.com asks: how much is the workload proportion of requirement

(11:34:03)*shiningxyy与*JerryWeinberg说:in overall software development process?

(11:35:53)*shiningxyy与*JerryWeinberg说:after the carreer question: which role do you like best personally?

(11:38:16)*shiningxyy与*JerryWeinberg说:will you suggest programmers to write articles, to give speech? to express their ideas?

(11:38:58)*citizen2yy与*JerryWeinberg说:when I am exploring the requirement with custom, I find the right requirement is

(11:39:16)*citizen2yy与*JerryWeinberg说:is not what our product can fit.

(11:39:32)*citizen2yy与*JerryWeinberg说:then shall we develop a new product?

(11:40:12)*citizen2yy与*JerryWeinberg说:but a new development will cost much more

(11:42:09)*rachel_33546716与*JerryWeinberg说:prof,do you think it's fit to described for uml of the office software?

(11:43:05)*citizen2yy与*JerryWeinberg说:we developed a new model of custom-include development. that means one custom pay fot a feature

(11:43:12)*citizen2yy与*JerryWeinberg说:and got all feature..

(11:43:39)*citizen2yy与*JerryWeinberg说:one pay for 1 feature and get all..

(11:44:09)*rachel_33546716与*JerryWeinberg说:prof，do you think that UML is the right way to describe...

(11:45:20)PAUL与*JerryWeinberg说:Tool's just tool,so u want to give our spirit.

(11:46:47)*shiningxyy与*JerryWeinberg说:thanks.

(11:47:54)VoiceOfWeinberg与*JerryWeinberg说:prof,how can we predict the change of requirements in our development process-

(11:48:27)VoiceOfWeinberg与*JerryWeinberg说:and without getting struck in our engineering?

(11:50:40)*shiningxyy与所有人说:最后一个问题吧，已经快到时间了。温伯格先生该休息一下了，他已经不停的说了2个小时。

(11:51:00)*citizen2yy与*shiningxyy说:give us some advice...:)

(11:52:16)*rachel_33546716对*shiningxyy摇了摇头:but prof donn't answer my Q:(

(11:52:49)*shiningxyy与所有人说:ok

(11:53:01)[*umlchina_seminar]与VoiceOfWeinberg说:test

(11:53:10)VoiceOfWeinberg与所有人说:test

(11:53:50)*shiningxyy与*JerryWeinberg说:rachel_33546716 asks that you haven't answer his question.:)

(11:53:51)PAUL与*rachel_33546716说:any question?

(11:54:12)*shiningxyy与*JerryWeinberg说:hehe

(11:54:31)*rachel_33546716对*shiningxyy摇了摇头:prof，do you think that UML is the right way to describe...

(11:56:03)*shiningxyy与*JerryWeinberg说:yes, Americans encourage making one's own decisions. right.

(11:56:39)*flybean与所有人说:It seems that UML becoming a program language. How about your thought?

(11:58:39)*shiningxyy与所有人说:ok. does there anyone have anymore quesions? time is limited.

(11:59:27)*rachel_33546716对*JerryWeinberg微微一笑:thx!

(11:59:28)VoiceOfWeinberg与*JerryWeinberg说:Yes, thank you very much!

(11:59:35)[*umlchina_seminar]与VoiceOfWeinberg说:thank you!

(11:59:35)*shiningxyy与*JerryWeinberg说:thank you. thank you very much! Professsor.

(11:59:36)PAUL与*JerryWeinberg说:very helpful for me. Thanks.

(11:59:47)*shiningxyy与*JerryWeinberg说:yes.

(11:59:48)[*umlchina_seminar]与VoiceOfWeinberg说:take care, prof.

(11:59:51)*shiningxyy与*JerryWeinberg说:thanks

(11:59:56)*shiningxyy与*JerryWeinberg说:see you

(11:59:57)heroxn与所有人说:thanks

(12:00:12)*flybean与所有人说:thanks Weinberg

(12:00:14)*shiningxyy与所有人说:好。讲座就到这里吧

(12:00:19)PAUL与*JerryWeinberg说:Your Chinese is also very professional.

(12:00:26)*shiningxyy与所有人说:我们会把讲座资料整理发布的。

(12:00:34)*rachel_33546716对*JerryWeinberg微微一笑:OK

(12:00:40)*shiningxyy与所有人说:yes, especially "xiexie"

(12:00:45)baitu与yl_tfc说:要是有录音就好了，我没听懂几句

(12:00:55)zhlei163与所有人说:thanks

(12:00:56)baitu与所有人说:要是有录音就好了，我没听懂几句

(12:01:01)*rachel_33546716对*shiningxyy微微一笑:何时将资料发布

(12:01:02)*shiningxyy与所有人说:呵呵，努力补习英文把

(12:01:18)zhlei163与所有人说:是呀

(12:01:27)baitu与所有人说:是啊！需要努力。

(12:01:32)*flybean与所有人说:希望有录音，忙别的事情。大部份没听。：（

(12:01:33)*shiningxyy与所有人说:会很快的发布的。到时通知大家

(12:01:54)*rachel_33546716对*shiningxyy微微一笑:好的，谢谢

(12:01:54)heroxn与*shiningxyy说:thanks

(12:02:16)*shiningxyy与所有人说:我麦克有点问题，不能说话

(12:02:18)heroxn与*shiningxyy说:说话的声音太模糊了

(12:02:19)PAUL与*shiningxyy说:we want to hear your voice.

(12:02:22)PAUL与*shiningxyy说:hehe

(12:02:28)*shiningxyy与所有人说:呵呵，next time

(12:02:49)*shiningxyy与所有人说:there is something wrong with my mc this moring.

(12:03:01)*rachel_33546716与*shiningxyy说:ok,it's time to lunch.

(12:03:04)阳光与*shiningxyy说:99999

(12:03:12)*rachel_33546716与*shiningxyy说:see u again.

(12:03:28)*shiningxyy与所有人说:yes. wish to meet everyone soon next time:)